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                       MEN IN BLACK.

In the past a certain number of people often come around and ask
people who would see space craft all sorts of questions, Then
after they got the information they would threaten them with
everything in the book if they ever talked about it to anyone.
They sometimes would even kill the person if they didn't shut up.
They were called the Men in Black because they wore dark suits
and drove dark colored cars. I recently got some information
about these people. They are from the Sirius Star System although
most of the good type beings from that system such as Kadar refer
to these Men in Black's planet as a rather unsightly planet and
from their frame of reference they do not claim them
to be their own, but they must acknowledge that they are even
within their dimension, located within the Sirius system. Our
government is cooperating with Sirians now and the question was
asked; What is the power that makes the entire government have to
go along with them?  They have weapons sources (I must be
circumspect) that are believed by the powers that be on this
planet (Earth) to be absolutely dominating.  In other words the
government believes that it is looking down the barrel of a very
big gun. The Sirians are in the second dimension soon to go into
the third dimension. We are in the third soon to go into the
fourth. The Sirians are trying to keep us from going into the
fourth dimension.  The negative Sirians are  involved in
these cattle mutilations because of their desirae to create a
species that can perpetuate itself in the harshest of conditions.
The people from Zeta Reticuli aren't doing the mutilations but
the primitive Zeta Reticulians which are from what we would now
consider to be from the past (please don't ask me to explain that
because I can't JW.) are helping the Sirians. One of the beings
that was interviewed while he was asleep is called B'Zal. You
talk about a tough dude. He would make the worse person on Earth
look like Mr. Robert (on the kids TV show).J.W.




Excerpts from _Alien Intelligence_ by Stuart Holroyd.  Everest
House,
1979, ISBN 0-89696-040-4.

        Since the start of the modern era of reported UFO
activity, which is generally considered as dating from the 1947
sighting by American businessman and amateur pilot, Kenneth
Arnold, many people who have claimed sightings of UFOs or contact
experiences with their occupants have reported subsequent visits
from rather sinister gentlemen whose behavior has been distinctly
odd.  These reports have emanated from different countries and
from individuals quite unaware that their experiences were not
unique, and they have details in common that add up to a rather
convincing case for the reality of the visitors.

        The men are generally described as dark or olive-skinned,
rather oriental-looking, of short stature, and frail build, and
are usually dressed in black, sometimes in ill-fitting or
out-of-fashion clothes.  There are generally two or three of them
and they seem to travel in large black cars.  Some people who
have been visited by 'men in black' have noted the numbers on the
cars' license plates, but when police have checked these they
invariably found that they are non-existant as registered license
numbers.  Other people have reported that the visitors have
appeared and vanished with unaccountable abruptness.  They
have used a variety of ruses to command a hearing, masquerading
as government agents, journalists, military or air force
personnel, or representatives of insurance companies, for
example.  Sometimes they simply ask a lot of questions, many of
them puzzlingly irrelevant, and then go away, but sometimes they
communicate quite unequivocal warnings of dire consequences if a
person does not keep quiet about his UFO experience.  More than
one investigator has been effectively silenced or intimidated by
the sinister visitors.  UFO cultists who believe that the world's
governments are in cahots to suppress information on the subject,
have spread the idea that the 'men in black' are CIA agents, but
this hypothesis is difficult to maintain in view of the evidence
for their world-wide appearances, the uniformity and peculiarity
of their looks, and the strangeness of their conduct.


<Absence of Evidence is not Evidence of Absence>


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Date:         Thu, 14 Mar 91 11:13:59 EST
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                           On MIB's.

From Brad Steiger's disorganized opus "Mysteries of Time & Space"
Prenntice-Hall, 1974, ISBN 0-113-609040-0 (some of the book first
appeared in "Saga" and "Male" magazine -- that should give you
some context of the 'hardness' of this info, but it is grist for
the mill).

   In September, 1953 Albert K. Bender had figured out parts of
the origin of flying saucers, and sent his theory off to a
"trusted friend".  Soon thereafter three men dressed in black
appeared, with his letter in hand.  They told him 'the real
story', and he became ill.

   Bender, apparently to "save mankind", kept the details to
himself and gave up UFO research.  Parts of this story were
retold in Gray Barker's "They knew too much about flying saucers"
(1956) [without the part of 'revealed truth'], and said that
several other people (in Australia and New Zealand) had also been
visited.

   Bender decided to tell all in his 1962  "Flying Saucers and
the Three Men", which (Steiger says) was disappointing, in that
it didn't tell much (that anyone wanted to know, anyway).  Alien
bases in Antartica (which Bender saw by Astral Projection), and
so on.

   However, others continued to stick to the MIB story, saying
that Bender had in fact been silenced.  "Bender was a changed man
after the MIB visited him.  It was as if he had been
lobotomized."  He suffered headaches that he said were caused by
'them'.

   Steiger says that "large numbers" of UFO-ologists have been
harassed by *somebody*.  A number of them (none named,
unfortunately) had had photographs and negatives of UFO's
confiscated by people claiming "government affiliation" (curious
term, that) - "usually three, usually dressed in black". [BTW, if
you ever get a visit from MIB, what they're asking you to do is a
violation of search and seizure laws.]

   In an issue of "Saucer Scoop" (as usual, Steiger doesn't give
an issue number) John Keel is quoted as saying that MIB are
professional terrorists who go from place to place making sure
that too much isn't found out about the UFO phenominon.  Keel
says that MIB victims appear to be subjected to "some sort of
brainwashing technique that leaves him in a state of nausea,
mental confusion, or even amnesia lasting for several days".
Keel goes on to charge that local police/FBI/etc. must be in on
it, because they refuse to investigate MIB.


   Col. George Freeman (Blue Book) was quoted by Steiger as being
quoted by Keel (do you get the drift here of Mr. Steiger's
"journalistic" zeal?) as saying that MIB cases were investigated
by Blue Book, and that they weren't connected to the Air Force in
any way.  Steiger goes on to detail how four bogus USAF officers
(Men-In-Blue, I guess :-) told witnesses in NJ that they "hadn't
seen a thing" in 1967, and that they shouldn't tell anyone what
they saw.

... Steiger goes on to give sketchy details of several other MIB
visitations (though several are of encounters with a single man,
not three), claiming to be NORAD officers, from the "UFO Research
Institute", and (my favorite) "a government agency so secret he
couldn't give its name".  Also, telephone and mail harassment and
messages from TV's and radios are mentioned.  The MIB know where
you're going, where you've been, and what you've been doing, and
will tell you such things to convince you to be quiet.

  From there, Steiger goes off the deep end, claiming that MIB
are to be found throughout history, as "Trickster", "Poltergeist"
or "Sorcerer" figures.  Well, I didn't say this was a good
source, now did I?

   A comment on clothing:  I've seen various things about the
material the MIB supposedly wear -- its made of a plastic-like
substance, a rubbery substance, and in Steiger's book the
material is described by "Major Joseph Jenkins, Retired, Field
Investigations Director for the UFO Research Institute of
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania" in 1968 as "reminding him of the
quilted uniforms (by Korean/Chinese troops) in the Korean war".

   Comments on appearance: I've seen all sorts of descriptions of
MIB's physical appearance -- here's another that I haven't seen
before:   "Jim" (no date, no last name): "He was cadaverous... he
looked like those WWII photographs of someone in a concentration
camp.  But he seemed alert enough."




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 In Brad Steigers book "Mysteries of Time and Space" (Sphere
Books,paperback edition,published 1977 page 193.) Steiger writes

> In 1956 Gray Barker told the Bender story-minus the
>detailed revalations the men in black (MIB) had given
>Bender about the UFO enigma__in They Knew Too Much
>About Flying Saucers. In the same volume he related that
>Edgar R Jarrold, organiser of the Australian Flying Saucer
> Bureau, Harold H Fulton, head of Civilian Saucer Inves-
>tigation of New Zealand, and Ufologist John H Stuart,
>also a New Zealander,had received visits from mysterious
>strangers in black and had subsequently disbanded their
>organizations and their research

 This paragraph contains some distortions and basic error of
facts. The book "They Knew Too Much About Flying Saucers" by Gray
Barker does contain some material which has helped to artifically
create a Mystery.  Certainly with regards to Harold H Fulton he
did not ever receive any visit by strangers in black, nor did he
ever receive any threats to close or cease his research.  He
continued his research until his death in 1986 and was New
Zealand Director for the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) from 1973
until this time

Fortunately a large portion of his files survive and are now in
my possesion.

 As far as New Zealander John Stuart is concerned, I have not
ever established contact with him (He appears to have passed away
in very recent years) I do have on file his photostat copies of
his correspondance with Grey Barker (received from another
source).

 In light of the ongoing discussion on this by some (on this Net
and perhaps elsewhere) I will be checking some background in
other areas and may at some time in the future post an article on
this net (if neccassary) although this is likely to be some weeks
or even months away

Regards

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